Douglas Schoen and Senator John McCain discuss changes at the heart of American democracy and whether the parties as we know them are gone forever. (March 27, 2012)
This so called independent. I mean we have people. Whose candidacies. Are separate from the independent expenditures. Run by their former campaign managers I mean. It's the biggest it's the worst joke in Washington -- that they're not connected it to the campaigns I mean it's really. It's outrageous it's an insult to anybody's intelligence to say that there quote not content they're connected to an independent they're not. What they've become part of the DNA in the -- in the campaign this is ridiculous they're regulations that. Clearly divide the coordination between the candidate and the independent. -- independent it has. It's technically out there that you can't. -- a lot of this stuff isn't that difficult to figure out anyway. He's the independent groups have their own pollsters to campaigns have their pollsters. It's not rocket science to figure out what kind of message to deliver -- doesn't need to be any coordination for the campaigns that are independent to be effective. And actually compliment. What the candidates are doing it has not tip of in the form and they need notes there's no evidence that is illegal coordination going on and if there is it's already illegal. I would say senator that the argument and the issue is actually a more extreme when them and you make that democracy in America as we knew it when we were growing up. He's in large measure gone. The whether it's legal or illegal it is corrupting in the sense that it is eviscerate the democracy. In his taken people out of the process. And they become an independent I believe in large measure. Because of the extremism the party the way money is used and the fact that there's no way to take a moderate view in this. In this city and in this country and survive politically. It could you have been posted for governor Roma. In the -- -- I I certainly believe what Buddy Roemer is saying is courageous write an important and I was saying to buddy before and the fact that no one's listening. Is a fact that in this town and indeed -- the larger. Cases the political class is complicit with an effort to take. Any efforts to make what Senator McCain is talking about and shove it under the road and that's why it's gonna take a scandal that's why it's gonna take a scam. And then there will be one I I can't I tell you right now there will be a scandal. Combination variants and I am today and stupidity the likes of which I have no option.